Saturday, June 26, 2021

E log book and online assessment FAQs and Q&A conversational learning

Q1) from student 1: Sir about the E logs, can we contact an intern to know about the cases? Or can we write from the cases you have posted in the E log Medicine group?


Medicine Department Faculty coordinator FC : Yes please contact the interns and please take the history yourself on phone from the patient or relatives to get the maximum out of this learning experience

Q2) And sir, can I ask them their personal details like Name, age and such?

FC: Yes off course but be careful to never reveal those in the E logs. 

Also please take a signed informed consent from them in the language of their choice that can be downloaded here http://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2020/05/informed-patient-consent-and.html?m=1


Student Response : Sure sir, I'll be sure to respect the patients' privacy always. Thank you very much sir, I'll be sure to send it and get it signed by the patients before taking their history


Q3) Deidentification :

The identifiers need to be completely removed including the name of Institute and dates. The dates have to be mentioned as year and season (such as summer of 2021 etc) and post admission dates should be Day 1, Day 2 etc

Details quoted below from the link here :

Please refrain from using any identifiers in your case reports. Keep the signed informed consent from the patient safely with you. 

The following identifiers of the individual or of relatives, employers, or household members of the individual, are removed:

(A) Names

(B) All geographic subdivisions smaller than a state, including street address, city, county, precinct, ZIP code, and their equivalent geocodes, except for the initial three digits of the ZIP code if, according to the current publicly available data from the Bureau of the Census:
(1) The geographic unit formed by combining all ZIP codes with the same three initial digits contains more than 20,000 people; and
(2) The initial three digits of a ZIP code for all such geographic units containing 20,000 or fewer people is changed to 000

(C) All elements of dates (except year) for dates that are directly related to an individual, including birth date, admission date, discharge date, death date, and all ages over 89 and all elements of dates (including year) indicative of such age, except that such ages and elements may be aggregated into a single category of age 90 or older

(D) Telephone numbers

(L) Vehicle identifiers and serial numbers, including license plate numbers

(E) Fax numbers

(M) Device identifiers and serial numbers

(F) Email addresses

(N) Web Universal Resource Locators (URLs)

(G) Social security numbers

(O) Internet Protocol (IP) addresses

(H) Medical record numbers

(P) Biometric identifiers, including finger and voice prints

(I) Health plan beneficiary numbers

(Q) Full-face photographs and any comparable images

(J) Account numbers

(R) Any other unique identifying number, characteristic, or code, except as permitted by paragraph (c) of this section [Paragraph (c) is presented below in the section “Re-identification”]; and

(K) Certificate/license numbers

Online assessment FAQs:

Please answer this monthly online summative assessment by 31st June :


Q1: from student 2: Is this for 2019 batch students too?

Answer: This question paper is a formative evaluation through a monthly summative test opportunity for all students associated with the medicine department beginning with 2019, 2017, 2016 interns and all PGs. This test utilizes E logs created by all the afore mentioned students, shares the last monthly test results for peer to peer review/assessments and is essentially a formative tool to promote assessment FOR learning rather than assessment OF learning

Q2) Sir I'm very sorry but I cannot understand where is the question paper?

The first links are for our understanding on how to write the assessment? But what are the questions we need to answer are they the same and we are required to give our own answer?

Answer : They are marked Q1 to Q5 and are merged in the clarifying narrative that accompanies the question

Scroll down to more than half of the page to find them

Student 2: 

Ah yes found them Sir 😁 
Thank you. So I should post the answer in my blog citing the question link and any external reference

Student 1:

Sir, a few students have expressed a doubt regarding the third question  from our July 2021  assignment 
around Q3) and I quote, 

"(Testing peer review competency of the examinees) :

Please go through the cases in the links shared above and provide your critical appraisal of the captured data in terms of completeness, correctness and ability to provide useful leads to analyze the diagnostic and therapeutic uncertainties around the cases shared"

 Sir, should the critical appraisal be done for any one elog, like last time, or all 11 - 12 elogs ?

FC answer: Q1 and Q3 offer testing of two different types of competency.

While Q1 focuses on your competency to assess other's ability to write an answer on different topics covered from Q1 to Q5 in the previous month's assignment, the Q3 assesses the ability of the people who made the case reports and the clarity and validity of the case report content in those E log links. It's important to attempt all of them to learn more and attempting just one will restrict our learning to one

Similar FAQs from last year linked here : 

Please click on the link below to get back to the first layer of the chapter:


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